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    • CommentAuthorCarl
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2006 edited
     # 1

    Buddha's Third Noble Truth talks about extinguishing the self. How do we go about doing that though? I never thought much of that idea since hearing it forty odd years ago :roll: . Granted, eliminating the 'self' would do the trick, but simply 'doing' it seemed impractical. I always figured that the Eight Fold Path was the 'doing' part which would lead to extinguishing the self.

    However, by putting the idea of extinguishing the self in the context of belief, it actually makes practical sense. Then, in fact, it is very easy to understand and very easy to put into practice. Simply don't believe in the self - your self. This requires no effort, no thinking, no skill, no learning, no money, no friends, no teachers, no knowledge. Perhaps it only requires 'self' honesty. On the other hand, of course, perhaps self honest is only possible as we drop our belief in self. And this may be why no one in the world can understand them or put them into practice.

    Ironically, we know way more than we think (believe), yet think (believe) way more than we know. And so yes, therefore even the sage treats some things as difficult.

  1.  # 2

    My experience has shown me that if you meditate long enough you will stop believing in the self. (Maybe I should speak for myself: it took me long enough!) It seems to happen naturally. Years and years of watching your thoughts float by, feeling sensations in your body--pain, emotions, other feelings there are no words for--you realize you are watching all that, but then you watch the watcher watching and then watch the watcher watching the watcher and fnally understand it is all an illusion.

    However, if someone were threatening to kill me or a loved one, or even threatening to take away my sense of security (also an illusion), the self would be back with a vengence!

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